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[Watcher]

I've read this one so please don't think that I break it
Out of topic : I think more guides will give more options for people who need it? ~my opinion only

Let's say that I'm just someone from past..
The only one reason I make it is..I love this class more than any classes I've ever tried

Since people love to improve themselves so I'll never compare mine to others and I hope u guys won't do either..

Race : Elf
Why :
Rune Impact is elf-only skill (only Rune Knight and Magnus can get it)..If it hasn't been changed, RI is never miss skill..It also has decent range n damage which is good to open a locking combo from SM

Path : Fighter>Warrior>Infantryman>Rune Knight>Sword Master
Why :
Rune Knight - Main reason is Rune Impact..and if u need more reasons,it's for the auras (+buffs) for sure
Infantryman - As elf,ur options are Infantryman or Swordman..Since passive bonuses from class don't work here,I choose Infantryman according to its skills : more defense and blunt shield as ur additional locking skill..
Warrior - Risk Taker to add ur damage and Heavy Weapon Accuracy to add ur strike (as long as I remember,it works for dual)

Stat : Pure STR or Pure VIT
For me, I prefer VIT..
Why : to be compared..u can get more stat from philo than ur real char's stat..and u still need STR more than VIT..VIT is only supporting stat so u don't die easily n to avoid one hit killed by destros..
NOTICE :
1. It's always up to u to improve stat..but I suggest u to make it balance..if u wanna go pure VIT in stat,it's better to get STR items n vice versa
2. If u want more challenges..u can go pure STR stat n STR items,if only u r sure that u r good enough to be 1 hit killer..

Equips : (I only put ur last(probably) equips)
According to my char's equips : (It is according to my STR set..I had STR set and strike set,I also suggest u to get these 2 sets since u'll probably need strike set to hunt Austere+to cover ur depends on RI when fighting eva rogues)
1. 2 pcs Death Maker (DM) - 115 one handed sword > Recommendations : +12 or more/30 str crafted is max/critical (Litheon) reinforced -- max crit rein is 100 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
2. Tarintus' Helm > Recommendations : DEX (HQ Emeralds) reinforced -- max DEX rein is 35 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 13+
Why not kynee : Kynee gives more defense, but 30 str philoed Kynee was more expensive than clean T.helm n it's easy to get 13+ str philo on it which gives 30 str in total
3. Holy Iron Chain Knight's Set
Why : I have compared almost all set options for this job, and Holy Set+Chiv on neck is the best
Details :
1. Holy Armor > Recommendations : 24 str crafted is max/STR (HQ Rubies) reinforced -- max STR rein is 35 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
2. Holy Gloves > Recommendations : STR (HQ Rubies) reinforced -- max STR rein is 35 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
3. Holy Boots > Recommendations : Move Speed (Fairy Wings) reinforced -- max Move Speed rein is 100 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
4. Legend : Chivalry's of The Church (Necklace) > Recommendations : HP (HQ Heart Stones) reinforced -- max HP rein is 700 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but I suggest to use HC Orihalcum since it's harder to get high str on lvl 70 items..HC Orihalcum gives 10-20 physical attack philo *only can be used on accesories n belts
5. 2 pcs HaThor's Rings > Recommendations : HP Regeneration (HQ Stones of Life) reinforced -- max HP regen rein is 20 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
6. 2 pcs Hegemonic Rainbow > Recommendations : MP Regeneration (HQ Moonstones) reinforced -- max MP Regen is 20 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
7. Dragon Slayer - Weapon Master > Recommendations : highest physical attack u can get by using HC Orihalcum

Costumes :
Crit Slime
any STR glasses
Mirror Cosmic of Dual Force
str philoed Phixus Cloak
Hat of Refining physical attack
Black Widow Leader suit
Panda Gloves
Panda Boots

Skills :
1. It's up to u about what weapon u wanna use till 105..I prefer 2h-axe since it gives more critical
2. I focus on aoe for 1-105 skills since main purpose in this level is for leveling only

Fighter
Uppercut 5
Fighter's Heart 1
Two Handed Training 5
Axe Training 5
Axe Mortality 5

Warrior
Uppercut 5
Wheel Wind 5
Fighter's Heart 1
Risk Taker 2
Warrior Form 2
Two Handed Training 5
Axe Training 5
Axe Mortality 4

Infantryman
Attract Circle 1
Axe Mortality 1
Heavy Weapon Accuracy 4
Nature's Shield 2
Toopership 2
Heavy Armor Expertise 10
Blessing Guard 4
Blood Leak 4
Enhanced HP 15
Nature's Mind 1
Magic Barrier 5

Rune Knight
Earthquake 10
Sword Storm 15
Shield Aura 2
Nature's Mind 1
Rampage Aura 2
Two Handed Training 5
Accuracy Aura 2
Rune Impact 20
Sonic Boom 20
Body Check 10
Mana Control 10
Mana Storm 6

*Re-skill
Sword Master
Dual Wield Expertise 10
Dual Wield Training 5
Dual Wield Accuracy 3
Rune Impact 20
Double Sonic Blast 5
Sonic Boom 25
Spinning Sword 5
Sword Storm 20
Body Check 10
Attract Circle 1
Shield Aura 2
Toopership 2
Nature's Shield 3
Heavy Armor Expertise 10
Blessing Guard 4
Shield Barrier 2
Blood Leak 4
Enhanced HP 15
Fighter's Heart 6
Rampage Aura 2
Risk Taker 2
Warrior Form 6
Sword Training 15
Accuracy Aura 2
Heavy Weapon Accuracy 4
Sword Accuracy 10
Spirit Sword 20
Blunt Shield 15

Optional but suggested :
Spirit Aid 20 - for bossing
Heal 5 - for bossing
Nature's Mind 3
Magic Barrier 5
Mana Control 10 - for leveling
Mana Storm 6 - for leveling
Berserker 4
Sword Rapidity 20

Ok there u go..
U can ask me if need more infos..
But I seldom come here so please forgive me if I can't reply asap
Good luck n goodbye


Edit : about comparing HB n Chiv..in normal case,I prefer HB as well

[♫♫IceCream♫♫]

You made this?

[Watcher]

Yea..why? o.O

[snickers]

i prefer HB set

[amerikaa]

this is like zemi path ...
but idk

[Khen]

HB > Chiv

Crit rate + crit damage is better.

Thats only me.

[sHaNuKi]

oooops mas maganda ba chiv?

mas mataas patk mo pag chiv.pero mas mataas damage ng crit po pag HB dba?tsaka ang baba ng crit rate pag chivalry tsk tsk

anu ginagamit mo boss?aha

[Watcher]

Hmm Chiv more balance n HB more damage
It's up 2 u to choose..

@amerikka I think won't be diff that much since this is best path for SM,I think..

[sHaNuKi]

ow i think chivalry is more damage..because u can get 9% patk in chivalry and 5% patk in holy set..

[sHaNuKi]

HB > Chiv

Crit rate + crit damage is better.

Thats only me.

+100 aha

the crit rate of SM is suck without HB ^^

[Eve2v]

how about when you reach level 115? whats better? level 115 Str Crafted Heavy Armor set or Holy Armor Set?

[Watcher]

If u wanna be balance..Holy Armor+Chiv
If u wanna be pure damage.. str Crafted Holy Armor+HB Set+str Crafted 115 Heavy Boots

[PulenRice]

1. Holy Armor > Recommendations : 24 str crafted is max/STR (HQ Rubies) reinforced -- max STR rein is 35 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
2. Holy Gloves > Recommendations : STR (HQ Rubies) reinforced -- max STR rein is 35 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+
3. Holy Boots > Recommendations : Move Speed (Fairy Wings) reinforced -- max Move Speed rein is 100 for it/highest STR philoed u can get, but at least 20+

That's screwed set brotha...
u will always dead when fight with Wookiss (Lv110 boss) although u're Lv120, LoL
SM dual wield need more P deff and max HP, because of penalty of Low Level Dual Wield Expertise, it will decrease ur p.deff, crit rate, crit damage and also accuracy.

better use
1. H Armor vit rein + vit/STR philo.
2. mov speed rein is useless, better VIT rein + STR/VIT philo.
3. HB set, with strike rein gloves, or STR rein.

i prefer strike rein on HB gloves, because i like to fight rogues with 320++ eva at ranged skill like sonic boom/double sonic blast eventhough RI has no miss damage, and i prefer HB set because crit rate SM at low Level (105-125) is hard to reach 1k crit rate. CMIIW

[Rurippe (루리뻬)]

That's screwed set brotha...
u will always dead when fight with Wookiss (Lv110 boss) although u're Lv120, LoL
SM dual wield need more P deff and max HP, because of penalty of Low Level Dual Wield Expertise, it will decrease ur p.deff, crit rate, crit damage and also accuracy.

better use
1. H Armor vit rein + vit/STR philo.
2. mov speed rein is useless, better VIT rein + STR/VIT philo.
3. HB set, with strike rein gloves, or STR rein.

i prefer strike rein on HB gloves, because i like to fight rogues with 320++ eva at ranged skill like sonic boom/double sonic blast eventhough RI has no miss damage, and i prefer HB set because crit rate SM at low Level (105-125) is hard to reach 1k crit rate. CMIIW

Dual Wield Expertise doesn't reduce p.def, crit damage, and accuracy. It only reduce crit rate, eva, and p.atk.

I'm kinda confused.. U said u will always dead with wookies with that set but u suggest to use HB which reduce p.def by 10% and that's worse.
If u want P.def, Holy Set + Chiv much better.

At high level, u will find m.speed rein is much better than Vit Philo especially at GW and PvP.

[PulenRice]

Dual Wield Expertise doesn't reduce p.def, crit damage, and accuracy. It only reduce crit rate, eva, and p.atk.

I'm kinda confused.. U said u will always dead with wookies with that set but u suggest to use HB which reduce p.def by 10% and that's worse.
If u want P.def, Holy Set + Chiv much better.

At high level, u will find m.speed rein is much better than Vit Philo especially at GW and PvP.

good answer brotha..
i know this answer will be appear...
HB set reduces p deff, yes that's right.

for wookiss problem. with H set full STR n STR chiv = low HP and low P deff, and the boss HP will be decreased slowly, b'cause low crit rate and crit damage, finally u will be killed fast. but if use 2 pcs h set (armor and boots) with vit rein (max rein recomended) and HB set, ur HP increase, and The Wookiss will be killed fast. u can compare this.

for GW and PvP, its easy to have 2 pcs H boots, one use vit rein for hunt, and one use mov speed rein for GW. i think no problem if ppl have 2 kind of h boots.

CMIIW

[Rurippe (루리뻬)]

Well... HB maybe can kill fast but with that u are become very squishy for mobbing. I got ur point for crit rate but in other side HB Set will make u like a glass cannon for low lvl.
Maybe in Wookies u can kill faster but at Grave u won't can mob with that def. 3.8k-4k is enough for tombstone but for that knight u need more than 5k.

I have compared between Holy Set + Chiv and HB + H.Armor + 115 Boots. Crit Damage output almost same, very little different.
For my char Chiv gives more stable damage while HB sometimes higher but sometimes lower too.

The big difference are in p.def and crit rate.
U can choose 14% p.atk + 6% p.def or 10% p.atk + -10% p.def + 10% crit damage +165 crit rate.

[PulenRice]

Well... HB maybe can kill fast but with that u are become very squishy for mobbing. I got ur point for crit rate but in other side HB Set will make u like a glass cannon for low lvl.
Maybe in Wookies u can kill faster but at Grave u won't can mob with that def. 3.8k-4k is enough for tombstone but for that knight u need more than 5k.

I have compared between Holy Set + Chiv and HB + H.Armor + 115 Boots. Crit Damage output almost same, very little different.
For my char Chiv gives more stable damage while HB sometimes higher but sometimes lower too.

The big difference are in p.def and crit rate.
U can choose 14% p.atk + 6% p.def or 10% p.atk + -10% p.def + 10% crit damage +165 crit rate.

well...wookiss problem clear.
1. How about grave mobs? yes ur right about need 5k++ p deff to mob. but it's about dual wield fighter, its mean no shield and low eva.
I have compared vit stat with chiv and H set, my p deff reached 5.3k and HP 20k. Every mob takes half HP, with p deff 5k+ it costs you 100-200 hp per ghost. Which means you need longer time to recharge HP for next mob, and also wasting your time if u use 100% exp scrool. I think you need p deff 6k++, and it would make the whole easier. For Lv 110-125, it is very hard to reach p deff 6k++. and would sacrifice so many p attack, not very efficient.

2. There's is no question, crit rate and crit damage are needed for characters of any job Even mage would need bigger stat INT compared to m.att in order to get good crit rate and crit damage magic. You'll be satisfied only by seeing "CRITICAL" appear after hitting the monster. LoL

3. and also crit damage, u can correct HB set decrease just 5% p deff and 5% m deff, not -10%.

CMIIW

[Rurippe (루리뻬)]

Yea u need 6k at lower lvl but at 120+ u will need less than 6k becoz no lvl gap again. Maybe not efficient but u can survive better. Have u try Mob in Grave with HB?

Well.. Like what i said before.. Crit damage between HB and Chiv almost same. Maybe i can say Chiv better coz its give more stable crit damage. The difference just in rate. I sub that with Crit reinforce on weapon and cloak.

Oh yea 5%.. I mean 5% + 24 Vit from H.Set effect.

Maybe u can use HB at end game, i mean at higher lvl when u can't lvl in Grave again but u will need p.def a lot if u use HB at low lvl for grinding.
In total, u will lost 11% p.def (6% from chiv + 5% from HB) + 24 vit. That's really hurt. Unless u hunt in party.
If u use HB, u won't can solo in Grave except u really focus on ur def and vit.

[Watcher]

Lazy to read all of them but I have a trick to cover my low p def..
Though I couldn't always lure them, but I still could lure mobs in tombs+knights (FiTW spot)

n about wookiss..
It was easy for me
I was even used to solo austere -evilsmirk-

@Rurippe U even know who I am lol

[PulenRice]

Yea u need 6k at lower lvl but at 120+ u will need less than 6k becoz no lvl gap again. Maybe not efficient but u can survive better. Have u try Mob in Grave with HB?

I can say nothing about that, sorry. I'll try it first, and see what gonna happen. Lawl..