xSilv3rBlad3x Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Cardinal path wiz-sor-inq-cardi (vit cardi) necro path wiz-priest-inq-necro (vit necro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rookie Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 i agree with amylove55, as a necromancer myself, i can be considered an "Anti tanker", meaning even if ure a full vit anything, i can still manage to drain ure HP bar down to zero in no time. As an anti tanker, all i rely on would be the Venoms, burns and Divine curse. also with curse weakness, i can reduce ure HP, Vit, Etc. Since a necro with full vit has a good amount of HP, it can survive HT easily. Chill breeze also last ahellovalot longer then the Shiled of justice or Lighting stun. Using HB would be useless also since we can freeze lock until ure HB dissapears. the only issue in this match up is if i am stunlocked perfectly and didnt get a chance to hit back. Reguardless, both classes can be a bitch to each other with the heavy DoT dealing, but due to HT cooldown, necro has the casting advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MrKid Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 it really is depend on your job path from lvls 1-104, as for me I'm going pure tank path going cleric>Monk>Bish>necro all this provides all the buffs and passives i need in order to survive, plus the heavy DoT skills from necro, and no necro does not have the upper hand with stun and casting. If you go cleric>priest/monk/sorc>warlock>cardi this provides really high stun lock (really sorc gives it all) but then cardi's HT is quite good and cooldown lets us down but that doesn't matter because of the stun lock of lvl 20 LS and CB/blizzard etc. This was typed rushed so it may not seem like it makes much sense but try your best to understand. Necro=Survivour, nothing can really kill it but heavy damagers/DoT+ epic stunners/immobilize. HP is really high and it's advantages are GW and grinding with its AoE skills. Cardi=Good 1vs1, great with their target hold skill (eg. Lightning stun+Blizzard) and their HT 2k damage i think it is per x sec but not so great with GW vs all but killing one at a time yeah or grinding. Oh you know what, they aren't that bad at grinding but I've never tried or seen a cardi grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MrMonsterMan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 depends on gear is necro has amazing vit gear necro but if cardi gets first hit cardi all they need is CB then HT then stun lock until dead necro has no chance if they dont get venom before stun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Uninstall Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 i chose cardi for pvp and war, i chose necromancer for pvp and war. These two job are good and i think no special one cuz i like fighter path ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bisul Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Cardinal has highest lvl of 'Cure Poison' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 claradevina Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 go necro's! :D 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prayshella Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 cardinal ofcourse :P 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Memo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Well. Lets look at the Dot perks. Card - Holy Taker/ At max it still only hits for the 4 seconds I believe. ----------------------------- Necro - Venom/ At max, hits for over 10k dmg not to mention other status ailments. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now these perks in a war. Sure Cardi's have cast time, and alittle bit of stun. And ther holy taker is devastating when it hits. But tell me, ever go to pvp map with a necro and hit venom cloud? You fuck everyone up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets say pvp between the two. A necro can easily get more def then a cardi can. So if, and its a big IF the cardi is build right, and able to freeze or stun that necro, then stack that. It can kill the necro. But heres all that necro has to do. Get close. Vital Explosion. That cardi, is a very dead cardi. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets now look at solo times. This is one sided. In any war game, pvp type thing with monsters in the area. Necro becomes unkillable. Lets say your grinding on your cardi. Grind, grind. Fast heal and potion spam. Now lets use this with Necro. Necro has skill called Corpse take. Its an aoe that infects all the mobs surrounding you. The slayer of those infected mobs get hp back. I get about 1.300 back a kill. So for grinding, a necro wins out. ----------------------------------------------- Cardi AOE - Shield of Justice, Holy Taker. Necro AOE - Vital explosion, Venom Cloud, Corpse Explosion, Corpse Take. Cardi STS - Turn Undead Necro STS - The Spear, Soul Squeez. -------------------------------------------------------------- Now lets check the cast times. See thats tyhe thing, so many people think fast casting determins everything. And a cardi does have a higher cast time then a necro. But in that time, that cardi HAS to kill it. Because in return for that cast time, a cardi's cool down time is alot slower then a necro. After the cardi is done casting. The cardi is left wide open for two skill florishes from a necro. ---------------------------------------------------- Oh, and once all skill are fixed, and Necro can use Devils armor. Then our def will be absolute. Necro's ftw. ***Edit: I also didn't bother to mention that necro can max meteor, and fire blast. It might not sound much, but at max levels. These skills are devastating. ***Edit: A skill flourish is my slang for firing off a row of skills. Thats a flourish. A two is firing off a row, letting them cooldown, and firing off again. Thats the time a Cardi's cool down would give us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Antoni77 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 @Septim, I remember I already told you about Corpse Explosion... that skill are not AoE hehehehehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 xClark Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Ok lets make a wild thinking here Well lets say I shrewd my self, Bless Vital,Twinkling Magic,Fortunate Magic,Concentration then my skill combo pattern would be: Barrier>Angelic Touch/Blizzard/any silencer>Holy Taker> and the miraculous Holy Justice or if the PVP master said no barrier nor sleep then it will be: SOJ(60%++ having stun) + Holy Taker + Holy Justice + SOJ reapeat if the foes still awake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bisul Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 hmm.. Cardinal has highest cure poison, it could cure Necros' Venom Cloud, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 xClark Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 ^ cure poison is useless. yeah it cant help.. but not much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bisul Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 not much how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vortec Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 hmm.. Cardinal has highest cure poison, it could cure Necros' Venom Cloud, right? while cardi curing poison, the necro give another poison btw curing = healing...not allow at battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Can't Nobody?! Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Well. Lets look at the Dot perks. Card - Holy Taker/ At max it still only hits for the 4 seconds I believe. ----------------------------- Necro - Venom/ At max, hits for over 10k dmg not to mention other status ailments. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now these perks in a war. Sure Cardi's have cast time, and alittle bit of stun. And ther holy taker is devastating when it hits. But tell me, ever go to pvp map with a necro and hit venom cloud? You fuck everyone up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets say pvp between the two. A necro can easily get more def then a cardi can. So if, and its a big IF the cardi is build right, and able to freeze or stun that necro, then stack that. It can kill the necro. But heres all that necro has to do. Get close. Vital Explosion. That cardi, is a very dead cardi. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets now look at solo times. This is one sided. In any war game, pvp type thing with monsters in the area. Necro becomes unkillable. Lets say your grinding on your cardi. Grind, grind. Fast heal and potion spam. Now lets use this with Necro. Necro has skill called Corpse take. Its an aoe that infects all the mobs surrounding you. The slayer of those infected mobs get hp back. I get about 1.300 back a kill. So for grinding, a necro wins out. ----------------------------------------------- Cardi AOE - Shield of Justice, Holy Taker. Necro AOE - Vital explosion, Venom Cloud, Corpse Explosion, Corpse Take. Cardi STS - Turn Undead Necro STS - The Spear, Soul Squeez. -------------------------------------------------------------- Now lets check the cast times. See thats tyhe thing, so many people think fast casting determins everything. And a cardi does have a higher cast time then a necro. But in that time, that cardi HAS to kill it. Because in return for that cast time, a cardi's cool down time is alot slower then a necro. After the cardi is done casting. The cardi is left wide open for two skill florishes from a necro. ---------------------------------------------------- Oh, and once all skill are fixed, and Necro can use Devils armor. Then our def will be absolute. Necro's ftw. ***Edit: I also didn't bother to mention that necro can max meteor, and fire blast. It might not sound much, but at max levels. These skills are devastating. ***Edit: A skill flourish is my slang for firing off a row of skills. Thats a flourish. A two is firing off a row, letting them cooldown, and firing off again. Thats the time a Cardi's cool down would give us. woah... O_O like a boss!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Memo Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 ^ Ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ChandyLand Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 It's easy to say that Memo is right, People think that Card's will win a lot more because of the uber fast casting speed, but no one seems to realize that after they cast there skills quickly, they have to wait. Necro all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Can't Nobody?! Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 It's easy to say that Memo is right, People think that Card's will win a lot more because of the uber fast casting speed, but no one seems to realize that after they cast there skills quickly, they have to wait. Necro all the way! cardi's are way too overrated... but I can't see why they shouldn't... they're really good... but necromancer jar naga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ThePharos Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 necro off course :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 xUFO Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Necromancer is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ♫Beetus♫ Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 cardi lead the world :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mr.Chaos Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 cardi lead the world :ph34r: agree :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mamang Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Absolutely Necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bisul Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 necro have "attract" skill :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mr.Chaos Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 necro have "attract" skill :D hahah, i never noticed that ^_^ and yeah, i more like my full vit necro now then my cardi (i tried on a pvp tournament map, then my bro who alredy w8 me on that map die [ use my cardi]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cardinal path wiz-sor-inq-cardi (vit cardi)
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of course necro , Necro Useful for War . they can give you venom cloud and the cast very fast although newly spawned . and have the curse that can give you -100 al stats . and the AOE skill can explo
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F this seriously... wth is this all about!! whats the meaning of comparing 2 different Jobs of 5th tier? they r made different because if u gets everything in one..what will be fun in other??? eve
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go necro's! :D
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